_< Goku porbably thought he could win because Buu was giving off fake reading of his Max. He noticed the limitations/drawbacks. . 1. He hates the feeling that someone more powerful than him is out there, so he constantly tries to catch up to Goku's strength. He was not powerful enough to defeat a kamehameha from "Mystic" Gohan SS goten and SS2 (dead body) Goku. had he faced dabura, then dat wud of been a great oppurtunity. In the heavens you have a limitless amount of energy, and it helps one get stronger than on a planet. SSJ2 multiples a Saiyans base power by 100x and SSJ3 multiples a Saiyans base power by 400x. In GT he becomes super saiyan 4 and skips out 3. Super Battle Road is definitely his best place, given that the Enemies in that mode have no resistance to stunning. SSJ2 would probably be better, although you run the risk of not being strong enough to win. Gotenks is similar to Goku's dead self in that fusions, like dead people, are much harder to kill. This is a shame, as the genocidal-villain/space pirate-turned-hero (or anti-hero) has just as many fans, if not more, than the dimwitted (and terrible father) who claims the role of main character. If you disagree with that, think about this. It is something that you need to have or not have. I may not be a huge Vegeta fan, but I believe it's possible, or maybe he just didn't WANT to. Super Buu aginst Gotenks was actually losing but he was only at 50%, yes. Of course Buu-Saga-Base-Form Goku would beat Frieza-Saga-SSJ1 Goku, that's just plain obvious. Potara is add the two powers and then x14,000. And without Goku around, Vegeta lost any reason left to train, and like Gohan became weaker and more mellowed. Oct 25, 2017 1,448. First, it is that it requires something that was not available to Vegeta to actually achieve the SSJ3 form. So basically, the only thing that Vegeta needs to transform into SSJ3 is a good amount of ki to perform and control the transformation, just look at Gotenks. 135 Lv. Second, because the ending of DBZ, GT's story line was written by someone else. of matching gokus ssj3.hes always been able to match him before why not now? Vegeta and Goku are very similiar, they both strive to make themselves better warriors. Saying "Base Form Vegito is stronger than SSJ1 Frieza Saga Goku" is an absolutley idiotic comparision. This is why I believe Goku used his SSJ form to battle Bills after SSJG form's time ran out. SSJ2 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta are exactly even. "You Can't", "You need more training" or "Ok I'll show you first turn Super Saiyan and go beyond that to Super Saiyan 2 and if you go beyon this you'll become Super Saiyan 3" could this be the only thing that could help vegeta. Slightly raises ATK when AGL attacks STR, STR attacks PHY, PHY attacks INT, INT attacks TEQ, or TEQ attacks AGL. like controling the great ape form and worked out his weakness with his tail,and i think goku was influenced alot by vegeta and i know that vegeta is more than capable. ", the short answer is no. and "Can a SS2 be stronger than an SS3? :3, 16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)98.211.36.158tyree can i be a super saiyan. When in the otherworld Goku had almost limitless energy due to not having the strain of a living body. - Vegeta. and he manages to gain that good heart,even after being controlled he still was able to accend to ssj2. But vegeta does soon get a pure heart because he helped goku go SSj god and you need a pure heart to do that. His best place is going to be in any event that allows stunning, like Super Battle Road. if u actually watch the babidi saga, u will see dat wen vegeta sees gohan fighting dabura, he notices dat gohan had become weak in the past 7 yrs and says dat if he fought dabura himself, then he wud of easily beaten him. When Baby took control over Vegeta their power levels got combined in a way so Baby Vegeta is as strong as SSJ, Super Baby SSJ2, Super Baby 2 SSJ3 so Vegeta has actually reached the power of Super Saiyan 3 just like when Ginyu took over Goku's body Baby didnt know how to properly use Vegeta's powers he just transform into i guess you could call it Super Tuffle. Vegeta will never be able to go into 3 because he is not nearly as strong in power determination and his pride makes him weak. He was smart, smarter than goku at first but then got too arrogant. Second Goku says Daburas around Cells level, Hes probally referring to the last Cell hes seen aka Perfect Cell not super perfect Cell. He did everything on his own from his pride to the erge to be the best of the best. (SuperSaiyan4BurstMode 14:30, October 26, 2009 (UTC)). He was barely an identity, merely an amalgamation of two powerful children. he even accended to ussj with trunks in the htc. Besides, him seeing Goku go SSJ3 won't get him mad and turn SSJ3 himself, because he would have to train more to do it (SSJ3 doesn't come through intense anger like the previous two transformations). SSJ3 is x1,500. He knew this would happen." Vegeta should be perfectly capable of reaching through to Super Sayian 3, since Goku said reaching a higher power comes through need and not always through wanting it. DB is full of this small holes, one more is not a surprise! If SSj2 Vegeta and Bulma were under a +170% ATK leader skill, they would generate an average of 2,456,249 ATK, which would put them above all units in JP other than LR LSSj Broly and LR SSj3 Goku. Ssj5vegeta 20:12, September 3, 2009 (UTC), I think the only reason Goku was able to generate that much energy in the first place was because he died. (2 years after Frieza + 3 years for arrival of Androids + 7 years after Cell = 12 years) During that 12 years Goku fought ALOT and trained even more. Plus, with Goku dying so much and all, ? If Vegeta was seen as a powerful being that had the potential to save the day, that could take away from Goku's image as the series hero. A lot of people on here don't think Vegeta can reach SSJ3 all because Goku did it in the otherworld which makes it impossible in the real world. Another is that it must have been very painful to actually achieve SSJ3 for both Goku and Gotenks, and both had some sort of supernatural life force abetting them, and yet it still cost them to sustain SSJ3 as they got used to it. However, Vegeta and Goku are exactly the same as SSJ2 and Vegeta can stay in the SSJ2 form as long as Goku can, hinting that his energy reserves are pretty large. Don't forget Great Ape, Golden Great Ape, ASSJ and USSJ, which are x10, x800, x100 and x150, respectively. Banned. However this is not enough to make Goku or Vegeta nervous or afraid of him so they could both probally beat him. But when he was dead, he was able to sustain SSJ3 much easier, the only side effect being that it cut into the time he had left on Earth for his one day visit (which obviously wasn't a problem in Other World). Goku had already achieved and most likely practiced with SSJ3 before he fought Kid Buu, and yet the form was still a strain. There is one thing a saiyan keeps, HIS PRIIIIIDDDDDEEEEEE!!!!!!!! Plus, Fusion Dance is much weaker than Potara. In the manga, there are quite a few hints he achieved it before he became Majin Vegeta, with practically none to the contrary, as Vegeta only states Goku to be stronger than Gohan once he, too transforms into Super Saiyan 2, holding complete confidence in his superiority over Gohan prior to becoming Majin Vegeta, and transforms into this state on his own free will from the normal Super Saiyan, long after he became Majin Vegeta. The reason Vegeta didn't become a super saiyan 2 and 3 that smooth, was because he wasn't pure hearted. Each of the base SS forms has its weakness (energy cost), but this weaknes seems to be compensated for with time, as evidenced by the ease at which a Saiyan can transfrom into the next level and the ease at which they can hold it. If the question is "Which is more reliable in battle?" vegeta reached points in his power way before goku did. Vegeta, however, pushes himself to be the strongest warrior just because. Of course he was strong enough to achieve it, the only thing prevented him from becoming stronger then Goku were, like mentioned before, the Otherworld trainings; I think about the Kaio Ken par example. Dance: Old Kai states flat out that dance creates a stronger fusion than the earings. I've been telling people this a lot and've been studing it. 20:19, April 6, 2010 (UTC), yes i know goku returned in the saiyaman saga but wot i meant to say was he was on earth during the babidi saga. First, we have to understand what SSJ3 transformation needs. Goku and Vegeta will forever be even both are cear cut super saiyan 1,and 2 but with vegeta he never had a chance to go ssj3 and the ssj4 goku got help just like vegeta he had the elder kai put out his tail just as vegeta had bulma help grow his tail so both had help reaching ssj4. But did you ever wonder that if vegeta were still smart he would have beaten goku in a battle but not with strength but his intellect would have thought of a trick or something. That's just what I think. Actually, Super Saiyan 3 is different from the other Super Saiyan transformations due to the fact that the only thing needed is to use one's full energy, ki, power and potential to reach it. I imagine Vegeta chooses not to transform because it uses too much energy and he has not yet been able to use SSJ3 effectively. But when he started to care about others again, that slowed down his progress again. A lone sayain couldnt become stronger as a Ssj1 than Ssj 2 In GT goku's little body could not hold super saiyan 3 as well. Lately I have really gotten into dbz again, and I have been researching a lot of stuff again. Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta. In conclusion SSJ3 is ALWAYS stronger than SSJ2 with 2 people of similiar power levels. he reached ssj3 because of combined powers, if a force was so great in DBZ, i think fusion with goku would have been a thought. The rest of the series is vegeta trying to kill everyone by himself even though everyone says don't try it. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! Forget Goku, Vegeta's the best. But I do think that Vegeta HAS need help for some of his forms, whereas Goku did not. DBGT shows that his body can handle the transformation also (assuming that if he can handle SSJ4 he can handle SSJ3). Personally i think DBGT completely sucked ! yes i know he used the form whilst he was a majin but it does not mean dat it was the first time he used it. i think its very possible for vegeta to accent into ssj3, babidi merely amplified the evil in him and thus for. Vegeta witnessed Goku fighting Kid Buu in SS3 form. S1 - AGL Super 17, LR AGL SSj Goku, TEQ Tapion, TEQ SSj3 Broly S2 - PHY Omega S3 - STR SSB Vegeta, LR INT God Goku, INT Kid Goku S4 - STR Kefla, Sugesh, STR Cooler S5 - STR SSBKK Goku, INT Metal Cooler, LR UI Goku I love the stepup!!!! Yes, but the SSJ3 Saiyan would have been at least 4x weaker than the SSJ2 Saiyan in his base form and it wouldn't be a fair comparision. hmmmm? Super saiyan 3 transformation consume a lot of ki energy. STR SSJ3 Goku GT has Over in a Flash and gives all allies 33% attack. Great Ape/SSJ3 completely disturb this balance. He is stronger than ssj3 goku in his EPIC ssj2 mode and BE EPIC AS HELL, Warning if any GT haters are reading this close your eyes lets begin. ", "Both the Daizenshuu and the new Super Exciting Guide character profiles state that Vegeta was awakened to his Super Saiyan 2 form by means of extensive training in between the Cell and Buu arcs, which assures that Vegeta did indeed achieve this transformation through training." 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Earned ssj2 during the Buu saga Gohan had no reason to train, and therefore more powerful than SSJ3... So yeah, I can gurantee that Vegeta trained all those years to be able to SSJ3. Just believe the Vegeta was an ssj2 before he fought Kid Buu, and it helps one get than. Lake Talquin Electric, Tomb Raider Chamber Of Souls Helicopter, Huntington Savings Account Minimum Balance, 225 Bus Route Malta, Amelia By The Sea Unit 550, Tome Of Divinity Reward, 20 Dollars To Philippine Peso, Loyola Press Children's Liturgy, How Do You Prune Alicante Tomatoes, " /> _< Goku porbably thought he could win because Buu was giving off fake reading of his Max. He noticed the limitations/drawbacks. . 1. He hates the feeling that someone more powerful than him is out there, so he constantly tries to catch up to Goku's strength. He was not powerful enough to defeat a kamehameha from "Mystic" Gohan SS goten and SS2 (dead body) Goku. had he faced dabura, then dat wud of been a great oppurtunity. In the heavens you have a limitless amount of energy, and it helps one get stronger than on a planet. SSJ2 multiples a Saiyans base power by 100x and SSJ3 multiples a Saiyans base power by 400x. In GT he becomes super saiyan 4 and skips out 3. Super Battle Road is definitely his best place, given that the Enemies in that mode have no resistance to stunning. SSJ2 would probably be better, although you run the risk of not being strong enough to win. Gotenks is similar to Goku's dead self in that fusions, like dead people, are much harder to kill. This is a shame, as the genocidal-villain/space pirate-turned-hero (or anti-hero) has just as many fans, if not more, than the dimwitted (and terrible father) who claims the role of main character. If you disagree with that, think about this. It is something that you need to have or not have. I may not be a huge Vegeta fan, but I believe it's possible, or maybe he just didn't WANT to. Super Buu aginst Gotenks was actually losing but he was only at 50%, yes. Of course Buu-Saga-Base-Form Goku would beat Frieza-Saga-SSJ1 Goku, that's just plain obvious. Potara is add the two powers and then x14,000. And without Goku around, Vegeta lost any reason left to train, and like Gohan became weaker and more mellowed. Oct 25, 2017 1,448. First, it is that it requires something that was not available to Vegeta to actually achieve the SSJ3 form. So basically, the only thing that Vegeta needs to transform into SSJ3 is a good amount of ki to perform and control the transformation, just look at Gotenks. 135 Lv. Second, because the ending of DBZ, GT's story line was written by someone else. of matching gokus ssj3.hes always been able to match him before why not now? Vegeta and Goku are very similiar, they both strive to make themselves better warriors. Saying "Base Form Vegito is stronger than SSJ1 Frieza Saga Goku" is an absolutley idiotic comparision. This is why I believe Goku used his SSJ form to battle Bills after SSJG form's time ran out. SSJ2 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta are exactly even. "You Can't", "You need more training" or "Ok I'll show you first turn Super Saiyan and go beyond that to Super Saiyan 2 and if you go beyon this you'll become Super Saiyan 3" could this be the only thing that could help vegeta. Slightly raises ATK when AGL attacks STR, STR attacks PHY, PHY attacks INT, INT attacks TEQ, or TEQ attacks AGL. like controling the great ape form and worked out his weakness with his tail,and i think goku was influenced alot by vegeta and i know that vegeta is more than capable. ", the short answer is no. and "Can a SS2 be stronger than an SS3? :3, 16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)98.211.36.158tyree can i be a super saiyan. When in the otherworld Goku had almost limitless energy due to not having the strain of a living body. - Vegeta. and he manages to gain that good heart,even after being controlled he still was able to accend to ssj2. But vegeta does soon get a pure heart because he helped goku go SSj god and you need a pure heart to do that. His best place is going to be in any event that allows stunning, like Super Battle Road. if u actually watch the babidi saga, u will see dat wen vegeta sees gohan fighting dabura, he notices dat gohan had become weak in the past 7 yrs and says dat if he fought dabura himself, then he wud of easily beaten him. When Baby took control over Vegeta their power levels got combined in a way so Baby Vegeta is as strong as SSJ, Super Baby SSJ2, Super Baby 2 SSJ3 so Vegeta has actually reached the power of Super Saiyan 3 just like when Ginyu took over Goku's body Baby didnt know how to properly use Vegeta's powers he just transform into i guess you could call it Super Tuffle. Vegeta will never be able to go into 3 because he is not nearly as strong in power determination and his pride makes him weak. He was smart, smarter than goku at first but then got too arrogant. Second Goku says Daburas around Cells level, Hes probally referring to the last Cell hes seen aka Perfect Cell not super perfect Cell. He did everything on his own from his pride to the erge to be the best of the best. (SuperSaiyan4BurstMode 14:30, October 26, 2009 (UTC)). He was barely an identity, merely an amalgamation of two powerful children. he even accended to ussj with trunks in the htc. Besides, him seeing Goku go SSJ3 won't get him mad and turn SSJ3 himself, because he would have to train more to do it (SSJ3 doesn't come through intense anger like the previous two transformations). SSJ3 is x1,500. He knew this would happen." Vegeta should be perfectly capable of reaching through to Super Sayian 3, since Goku said reaching a higher power comes through need and not always through wanting it. DB is full of this small holes, one more is not a surprise! If SSj2 Vegeta and Bulma were under a +170% ATK leader skill, they would generate an average of 2,456,249 ATK, which would put them above all units in JP other than LR LSSj Broly and LR SSj3 Goku. Ssj5vegeta 20:12, September 3, 2009 (UTC), I think the only reason Goku was able to generate that much energy in the first place was because he died. (2 years after Frieza + 3 years for arrival of Androids + 7 years after Cell = 12 years) During that 12 years Goku fought ALOT and trained even more. Plus, with Goku dying so much and all, ? If Vegeta was seen as a powerful being that had the potential to save the day, that could take away from Goku's image as the series hero. A lot of people on here don't think Vegeta can reach SSJ3 all because Goku did it in the otherworld which makes it impossible in the real world. Another is that it must have been very painful to actually achieve SSJ3 for both Goku and Gotenks, and both had some sort of supernatural life force abetting them, and yet it still cost them to sustain SSJ3 as they got used to it. However, Vegeta and Goku are exactly the same as SSJ2 and Vegeta can stay in the SSJ2 form as long as Goku can, hinting that his energy reserves are pretty large. Don't forget Great Ape, Golden Great Ape, ASSJ and USSJ, which are x10, x800, x100 and x150, respectively. Banned. However this is not enough to make Goku or Vegeta nervous or afraid of him so they could both probally beat him. But when he was dead, he was able to sustain SSJ3 much easier, the only side effect being that it cut into the time he had left on Earth for his one day visit (which obviously wasn't a problem in Other World). Goku had already achieved and most likely practiced with SSJ3 before he fought Kid Buu, and yet the form was still a strain. There is one thing a saiyan keeps, HIS PRIIIIIDDDDDEEEEEE!!!!!!!! Plus, Fusion Dance is much weaker than Potara. In the manga, there are quite a few hints he achieved it before he became Majin Vegeta, with practically none to the contrary, as Vegeta only states Goku to be stronger than Gohan once he, too transforms into Super Saiyan 2, holding complete confidence in his superiority over Gohan prior to becoming Majin Vegeta, and transforms into this state on his own free will from the normal Super Saiyan, long after he became Majin Vegeta. The reason Vegeta didn't become a super saiyan 2 and 3 that smooth, was because he wasn't pure hearted. Each of the base SS forms has its weakness (energy cost), but this weaknes seems to be compensated for with time, as evidenced by the ease at which a Saiyan can transfrom into the next level and the ease at which they can hold it. If the question is "Which is more reliable in battle?" vegeta reached points in his power way before goku did. Vegeta, however, pushes himself to be the strongest warrior just because. Of course he was strong enough to achieve it, the only thing prevented him from becoming stronger then Goku were, like mentioned before, the Otherworld trainings; I think about the Kaio Ken par example. Dance: Old Kai states flat out that dance creates a stronger fusion than the earings. I've been telling people this a lot and've been studing it. 20:19, April 6, 2010 (UTC), yes i know goku returned in the saiyaman saga but wot i meant to say was he was on earth during the babidi saga. First, we have to understand what SSJ3 transformation needs. Goku and Vegeta will forever be even both are cear cut super saiyan 1,and 2 but with vegeta he never had a chance to go ssj3 and the ssj4 goku got help just like vegeta he had the elder kai put out his tail just as vegeta had bulma help grow his tail so both had help reaching ssj4. But did you ever wonder that if vegeta were still smart he would have beaten goku in a battle but not with strength but his intellect would have thought of a trick or something. That's just what I think. Actually, Super Saiyan 3 is different from the other Super Saiyan transformations due to the fact that the only thing needed is to use one's full energy, ki, power and potential to reach it. I imagine Vegeta chooses not to transform because it uses too much energy and he has not yet been able to use SSJ3 effectively. But when he started to care about others again, that slowed down his progress again. A lone sayain couldnt become stronger as a Ssj1 than Ssj 2 In GT goku's little body could not hold super saiyan 3 as well. Lately I have really gotten into dbz again, and I have been researching a lot of stuff again. Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta. In conclusion SSJ3 is ALWAYS stronger than SSJ2 with 2 people of similiar power levels. he reached ssj3 because of combined powers, if a force was so great in DBZ, i think fusion with goku would have been a thought. The rest of the series is vegeta trying to kill everyone by himself even though everyone says don't try it. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! Forget Goku, Vegeta's the best. But I do think that Vegeta HAS need help for some of his forms, whereas Goku did not. DBGT shows that his body can handle the transformation also (assuming that if he can handle SSJ4 he can handle SSJ3). Personally i think DBGT completely sucked ! yes i know he used the form whilst he was a majin but it does not mean dat it was the first time he used it. i think its very possible for vegeta to accent into ssj3, babidi merely amplified the evil in him and thus for. Vegeta witnessed Goku fighting Kid Buu in SS3 form. S1 - AGL Super 17, LR AGL SSj Goku, TEQ Tapion, TEQ SSj3 Broly S2 - PHY Omega S3 - STR SSB Vegeta, LR INT God Goku, INT Kid Goku S4 - STR Kefla, Sugesh, STR Cooler S5 - STR SSBKK Goku, INT Metal Cooler, LR UI Goku I love the stepup!!!! Yes, but the SSJ3 Saiyan would have been at least 4x weaker than the SSJ2 Saiyan in his base form and it wouldn't be a fair comparision. hmmmm? Super saiyan 3 transformation consume a lot of ki energy. STR SSJ3 Goku GT has Over in a Flash and gives all allies 33% attack. Great Ape/SSJ3 completely disturb this balance. 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He hates the feeling that someone more powerful than him is out there, so he constantly tries to catch up to Goku's strength. He was not powerful enough to defeat a kamehameha from "Mystic" Gohan SS goten and SS2 (dead body) Goku. had he faced dabura, then dat wud of been a great oppurtunity. In the heavens you have a limitless amount of energy, and it helps one get stronger than on a planet. SSJ2 multiples a Saiyans base power by 100x and SSJ3 multiples a Saiyans base power by 400x. In GT he becomes super saiyan 4 and skips out 3. Super Battle Road is definitely his best place, given that the Enemies in that mode have no resistance to stunning. SSJ2 would probably be better, although you run the risk of not being strong enough to win. Gotenks is similar to Goku's dead self in that fusions, like dead people, are much harder to kill. This is a shame, as the genocidal-villain/space pirate-turned-hero (or anti-hero) has just as many fans, if not more, than the dimwitted (and terrible father) who claims the role of main character. If you disagree with that, think about this. It is something that you need to have or not have. I may not be a huge Vegeta fan, but I believe it's possible, or maybe he just didn't WANT to. Super Buu aginst Gotenks was actually losing but he was only at 50%, yes. Of course Buu-Saga-Base-Form Goku would beat Frieza-Saga-SSJ1 Goku, that's just plain obvious. Potara is add the two powers and then x14,000. And without Goku around, Vegeta lost any reason left to train, and like Gohan became weaker and more mellowed. Oct 25, 2017 1,448. First, it is that it requires something that was not available to Vegeta to actually achieve the SSJ3 form. So basically, the only thing that Vegeta needs to transform into SSJ3 is a good amount of ki to perform and control the transformation, just look at Gotenks. 135 Lv. Second, because the ending of DBZ, GT's story line was written by someone else. of matching gokus ssj3.hes always been able to match him before why not now? Vegeta and Goku are very similiar, they both strive to make themselves better warriors. Saying "Base Form Vegito is stronger than SSJ1 Frieza Saga Goku" is an absolutley idiotic comparision. This is why I believe Goku used his SSJ form to battle Bills after SSJG form's time ran out. SSJ2 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta are exactly even. "You Can't", "You need more training" or "Ok I'll show you first turn Super Saiyan and go beyond that to Super Saiyan 2 and if you go beyon this you'll become Super Saiyan 3" could this be the only thing that could help vegeta. Slightly raises ATK when AGL attacks STR, STR attacks PHY, PHY attacks INT, INT attacks TEQ, or TEQ attacks AGL. like controling the great ape form and worked out his weakness with his tail,and i think goku was influenced alot by vegeta and i know that vegeta is more than capable. ", the short answer is no. and "Can a SS2 be stronger than an SS3? :3, 16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)98.211.36.158tyree can i be a super saiyan. When in the otherworld Goku had almost limitless energy due to not having the strain of a living body. - Vegeta. and he manages to gain that good heart,even after being controlled he still was able to accend to ssj2. But vegeta does soon get a pure heart because he helped goku go SSj god and you need a pure heart to do that. His best place is going to be in any event that allows stunning, like Super Battle Road. if u actually watch the babidi saga, u will see dat wen vegeta sees gohan fighting dabura, he notices dat gohan had become weak in the past 7 yrs and says dat if he fought dabura himself, then he wud of easily beaten him. When Baby took control over Vegeta their power levels got combined in a way so Baby Vegeta is as strong as SSJ, Super Baby SSJ2, Super Baby 2 SSJ3 so Vegeta has actually reached the power of Super Saiyan 3 just like when Ginyu took over Goku's body Baby didnt know how to properly use Vegeta's powers he just transform into i guess you could call it Super Tuffle. Vegeta will never be able to go into 3 because he is not nearly as strong in power determination and his pride makes him weak. He was smart, smarter than goku at first but then got too arrogant. Second Goku says Daburas around Cells level, Hes probally referring to the last Cell hes seen aka Perfect Cell not super perfect Cell. He did everything on his own from his pride to the erge to be the best of the best. (SuperSaiyan4BurstMode 14:30, October 26, 2009 (UTC)). He was barely an identity, merely an amalgamation of two powerful children. he even accended to ussj with trunks in the htc. Besides, him seeing Goku go SSJ3 won't get him mad and turn SSJ3 himself, because he would have to train more to do it (SSJ3 doesn't come through intense anger like the previous two transformations). SSJ3 is x1,500. He knew this would happen." Vegeta should be perfectly capable of reaching through to Super Sayian 3, since Goku said reaching a higher power comes through need and not always through wanting it. DB is full of this small holes, one more is not a surprise! If SSj2 Vegeta and Bulma were under a +170% ATK leader skill, they would generate an average of 2,456,249 ATK, which would put them above all units in JP other than LR LSSj Broly and LR SSj3 Goku. Ssj5vegeta 20:12, September 3, 2009 (UTC), I think the only reason Goku was able to generate that much energy in the first place was because he died. (2 years after Frieza + 3 years for arrival of Androids + 7 years after Cell = 12 years) During that 12 years Goku fought ALOT and trained even more. Plus, with Goku dying so much and all, ? If Vegeta was seen as a powerful being that had the potential to save the day, that could take away from Goku's image as the series hero. A lot of people on here don't think Vegeta can reach SSJ3 all because Goku did it in the otherworld which makes it impossible in the real world. Another is that it must have been very painful to actually achieve SSJ3 for both Goku and Gotenks, and both had some sort of supernatural life force abetting them, and yet it still cost them to sustain SSJ3 as they got used to it. However, Vegeta and Goku are exactly the same as SSJ2 and Vegeta can stay in the SSJ2 form as long as Goku can, hinting that his energy reserves are pretty large. Don't forget Great Ape, Golden Great Ape, ASSJ and USSJ, which are x10, x800, x100 and x150, respectively. Banned. However this is not enough to make Goku or Vegeta nervous or afraid of him so they could both probally beat him. But when he was dead, he was able to sustain SSJ3 much easier, the only side effect being that it cut into the time he had left on Earth for his one day visit (which obviously wasn't a problem in Other World). Goku had already achieved and most likely practiced with SSJ3 before he fought Kid Buu, and yet the form was still a strain. There is one thing a saiyan keeps, HIS PRIIIIIDDDDDEEEEEE!!!!!!!! Plus, Fusion Dance is much weaker than Potara. In the manga, there are quite a few hints he achieved it before he became Majin Vegeta, with practically none to the contrary, as Vegeta only states Goku to be stronger than Gohan once he, too transforms into Super Saiyan 2, holding complete confidence in his superiority over Gohan prior to becoming Majin Vegeta, and transforms into this state on his own free will from the normal Super Saiyan, long after he became Majin Vegeta. The reason Vegeta didn't become a super saiyan 2 and 3 that smooth, was because he wasn't pure hearted. Each of the base SS forms has its weakness (energy cost), but this weaknes seems to be compensated for with time, as evidenced by the ease at which a Saiyan can transfrom into the next level and the ease at which they can hold it. If the question is "Which is more reliable in battle?" vegeta reached points in his power way before goku did. Vegeta, however, pushes himself to be the strongest warrior just because. Of course he was strong enough to achieve it, the only thing prevented him from becoming stronger then Goku were, like mentioned before, the Otherworld trainings; I think about the Kaio Ken par example. Dance: Old Kai states flat out that dance creates a stronger fusion than the earings. I've been telling people this a lot and've been studing it. 20:19, April 6, 2010 (UTC), yes i know goku returned in the saiyaman saga but wot i meant to say was he was on earth during the babidi saga. First, we have to understand what SSJ3 transformation needs. Goku and Vegeta will forever be even both are cear cut super saiyan 1,and 2 but with vegeta he never had a chance to go ssj3 and the ssj4 goku got help just like vegeta he had the elder kai put out his tail just as vegeta had bulma help grow his tail so both had help reaching ssj4. But did you ever wonder that if vegeta were still smart he would have beaten goku in a battle but not with strength but his intellect would have thought of a trick or something. That's just what I think. Actually, Super Saiyan 3 is different from the other Super Saiyan transformations due to the fact that the only thing needed is to use one's full energy, ki, power and potential to reach it. I imagine Vegeta chooses not to transform because it uses too much energy and he has not yet been able to use SSJ3 effectively. But when he started to care about others again, that slowed down his progress again. A lone sayain couldnt become stronger as a Ssj1 than Ssj 2 In GT goku's little body could not hold super saiyan 3 as well. Lately I have really gotten into dbz again, and I have been researching a lot of stuff again. Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta. In conclusion SSJ3 is ALWAYS stronger than SSJ2 with 2 people of similiar power levels. he reached ssj3 because of combined powers, if a force was so great in DBZ, i think fusion with goku would have been a thought. The rest of the series is vegeta trying to kill everyone by himself even though everyone says don't try it. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! Forget Goku, Vegeta's the best. But I do think that Vegeta HAS need help for some of his forms, whereas Goku did not. DBGT shows that his body can handle the transformation also (assuming that if he can handle SSJ4 he can handle SSJ3). Personally i think DBGT completely sucked ! yes i know he used the form whilst he was a majin but it does not mean dat it was the first time he used it. i think its very possible for vegeta to accent into ssj3, babidi merely amplified the evil in him and thus for. Vegeta witnessed Goku fighting Kid Buu in SS3 form. S1 - AGL Super 17, LR AGL SSj Goku, TEQ Tapion, TEQ SSj3 Broly S2 - PHY Omega S3 - STR SSB Vegeta, LR INT God Goku, INT Kid Goku S4 - STR Kefla, Sugesh, STR Cooler S5 - STR SSBKK Goku, INT Metal Cooler, LR UI Goku I love the stepup!!!! Yes, but the SSJ3 Saiyan would have been at least 4x weaker than the SSJ2 Saiyan in his base form and it wouldn't be a fair comparision. hmmmm? Super saiyan 3 transformation consume a lot of ki energy. STR SSJ3 Goku GT has Over in a Flash and gives all allies 33% attack. Great Ape/SSJ3 completely disturb this balance. He is stronger than ssj3 goku in his EPIC ssj2 mode and BE EPIC AS HELL, Warning if any GT haters are reading this close your eyes lets begin. ", "Both the Daizenshuu and the new Super Exciting Guide character profiles state that Vegeta was awakened to his Super Saiyan 2 form by means of extensive training in between the Cell and Buu arcs, which assures that Vegeta did indeed achieve this transformation through training." 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Thus it would be quite difficult for Vegeta to achieve SSJ3, even if he had more than enough power. it was the whole point y vegeta let babidi control him. Cell, the Androids, and Buu were mulitple time stronger then Frieza and he had to get stronger to beat them. He probably attained it, then practiced it like crazy to be able to use it as a human ( "sorry to keep you waiting...I haven't had much occasion to practice this one..." ) lol. so if goku was able vegeta should be able to do it too, Well Gotenks skips SSJ2 and went from SSJ3, so i think after going SSJ4 for the first time, Vegeta decided to skip SSJ3 in favor of the stonger SSJ4. He can be strong against stunned Enemies, but in events where the Enemy cannot be stunned, he won’t be dealing remarkable Damage. The reasons to why he didnt transform are various, so I dont need to quote them here; but this includes the fact that he didnt need it, that producers forgot or never though about it, or even if in the cirscunstances the SSJ2 form was always a better choice. vegeta cud of used dis to his advantage and started to train without a lust for power so he cud achieve ss3 but he decided not to and trained at an average level maybe due to the fact dat he did not have that thirst of surpassing goku anymore. Super saiyan 4 Sorry, but I actually have not watched DBGT yet, i dont have any info on SS4. could goku even had accended without dying????? And this was after they all achieved the form already. He achieved it because he was dead in otherworld. SSJ3 Vegeta is one of the best tanks in Dokkan. He could have done it in the 10 year gap between Buu Saga and End of Z, because he claims that he and Goku would need a planet for a battlefield, but if he was stuck at SSJ2, Goku would domination him, but of course, Akira didn't really show it, so that's very unlikely. Unless his Gene's wont allow it or whether you need to be pure good or bad, I Dont know although vegeta is a mix of good and bad and was still able to reach the first ssj form, If the manga or cartoons haven't stated anything about restrictions like this, I dont see why he couldn't keep increasing his power level. Like goku, he couldn't hold super saiyan 3 that long because his body wasn't strong enough. Vegta doesn't need Goku's low-class help. Goku did all those transformations by him self too. even as Majin Vegeta .. he couldn't beat Buu in his fat form. Xeno Goku … However, he can exceed the power of SSJ3 using his own power. Then again maybe he needs different kinds of training. Huge Fan so Please respond Prince Zarbon=), if you think about, goku showed goten and trunks how to do it and. SSJ3 Vegeta is a must-have tank. Here are some real reliable facts. I have see some people saying that he doesnt transform into SSJ2 by normal means (using the argument that he only achieve SSJ2 by the help of Babidi), well, he kinda does: "It is sometimes debated when he first achieved this form. Well that's just wrong, it would be a lot harder to achieve in the real world yes but all it really means is that Vegeta would have to train a lot harder harder than he ever has before. Goku had a hard time with this transformation. Super Saiyan, a saiyan's powers are magnified in this form, by exactly how much is never specified(an important bit of info to note). The reason why Vegeta didn't attain Super Saiyan 3 is because it is much easier to achieve it while dead. it just downgraded the likes of Gohan, Vegeta and even Trunks and Goten.. i think it was a serious mistake to make GT. Even without of that, he would still needs to be strong enough to achieve the SSJ2, the Majin phase was only a kick (like the destruction of Android 16 to Gohan) if he actually didnt achieve the SSJ2 form before that. When Goku reached ASSJ/USSJ1 and then USSJ/USSJ2 he realised that bulking up and forcing his power to increase isn't the best way to increase power level. wot Veget-San said is true, vegeta did in fact reach ss2 through harsh training & babidi just unleashed vegeta's evil potential. After all, he only transform into SSJ4 only a few times, maybe after some training, he could transform alone? after the fight wen vegeta yells at gohan for not finishing dabura off, gohan himself states dat if vegeta fought dabura, then vegeta wud of beaten him. All these people saying Vegeta doesnt care about being stronger then Goku are crazy. When he went ssj4, he needed Bulma's machine to do it(not even Baby could do it himself), and after the form wore off; Goku asked why he didn't transform again, and he shouted shutup!, implying that he could transform (even after attaining the form) without the Blutz Wave Generator. If the fans in Japan didn't like an idea, Toriyama would bend over backwards just to fix it to the fans desires. 10 turns is a very long time, but once it’s up, Vegeta is wide open for Damage. It doesn't matter for Potara, but if Trunks suppressed for Goten it would make sense if Goku did for Vegeta, SupremeBooyah (talk) 18:29, October 16, 2012 (UTC). then, well it depends. The reason he never did because it difficult to hold such power that his body can't handle. (with the exception of Broly Ssj5vegeta 00:03, February 3, 2010 (UTC). So to do that, the focus had to stay on Goku, sacrificing Vegeta's shot at SS3. He understood that it was extremely powerful, yet it had serious drawbacks. well,goku was the main reason he trained to ascend BUT what makes you think he couldnt go all the way? “Over in a Flash”, “Super Saiyan”, and “Fierce Battle” are very common Link Skills on his categories, and he will share many Link Skills with other Pure Saiyans, and especially Super Saiyan 3 category allies. So yeah, clear? Vegeta earned ssj2 during the seven years of peace after Cell. Fusion Dance is add powers and x1,000. >_< Goku porbably thought he could win because Buu was giving off fake reading of his Max. He noticed the limitations/drawbacks. . 1. He hates the feeling that someone more powerful than him is out there, so he constantly tries to catch up to Goku's strength. He was not powerful enough to defeat a kamehameha from "Mystic" Gohan SS goten and SS2 (dead body) Goku. had he faced dabura, then dat wud of been a great oppurtunity. In the heavens you have a limitless amount of energy, and it helps one get stronger than on a planet. SSJ2 multiples a Saiyans base power by 100x and SSJ3 multiples a Saiyans base power by 400x. In GT he becomes super saiyan 4 and skips out 3. Super Battle Road is definitely his best place, given that the Enemies in that mode have no resistance to stunning. SSJ2 would probably be better, although you run the risk of not being strong enough to win. Gotenks is similar to Goku's dead self in that fusions, like dead people, are much harder to kill. This is a shame, as the genocidal-villain/space pirate-turned-hero (or anti-hero) has just as many fans, if not more, than the dimwitted (and terrible father) who claims the role of main character. If you disagree with that, think about this. It is something that you need to have or not have. I may not be a huge Vegeta fan, but I believe it's possible, or maybe he just didn't WANT to. Super Buu aginst Gotenks was actually losing but he was only at 50%, yes. Of course Buu-Saga-Base-Form Goku would beat Frieza-Saga-SSJ1 Goku, that's just plain obvious. Potara is add the two powers and then x14,000. And without Goku around, Vegeta lost any reason left to train, and like Gohan became weaker and more mellowed. Oct 25, 2017 1,448. First, it is that it requires something that was not available to Vegeta to actually achieve the SSJ3 form. So basically, the only thing that Vegeta needs to transform into SSJ3 is a good amount of ki to perform and control the transformation, just look at Gotenks. 135 Lv. Second, because the ending of DBZ, GT's story line was written by someone else. of matching gokus ssj3.hes always been able to match him before why not now? Vegeta and Goku are very similiar, they both strive to make themselves better warriors. Saying "Base Form Vegito is stronger than SSJ1 Frieza Saga Goku" is an absolutley idiotic comparision. This is why I believe Goku used his SSJ form to battle Bills after SSJG form's time ran out. SSJ2 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta are exactly even. "You Can't", "You need more training" or "Ok I'll show you first turn Super Saiyan and go beyond that to Super Saiyan 2 and if you go beyon this you'll become Super Saiyan 3" could this be the only thing that could help vegeta. Slightly raises ATK when AGL attacks STR, STR attacks PHY, PHY attacks INT, INT attacks TEQ, or TEQ attacks AGL. like controling the great ape form and worked out his weakness with his tail,and i think goku was influenced alot by vegeta and i know that vegeta is more than capable. ", the short answer is no. and "Can a SS2 be stronger than an SS3? :3, 16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)16:52, September 21, 2012 (UTC)98.211.36.158tyree can i be a super saiyan. When in the otherworld Goku had almost limitless energy due to not having the strain of a living body. - Vegeta. and he manages to gain that good heart,even after being controlled he still was able to accend to ssj2. But vegeta does soon get a pure heart because he helped goku go SSj god and you need a pure heart to do that. His best place is going to be in any event that allows stunning, like Super Battle Road. if u actually watch the babidi saga, u will see dat wen vegeta sees gohan fighting dabura, he notices dat gohan had become weak in the past 7 yrs and says dat if he fought dabura himself, then he wud of easily beaten him. When Baby took control over Vegeta their power levels got combined in a way so Baby Vegeta is as strong as SSJ, Super Baby SSJ2, Super Baby 2 SSJ3 so Vegeta has actually reached the power of Super Saiyan 3 just like when Ginyu took over Goku's body Baby didnt know how to properly use Vegeta's powers he just transform into i guess you could call it Super Tuffle. Vegeta will never be able to go into 3 because he is not nearly as strong in power determination and his pride makes him weak. He was smart, smarter than goku at first but then got too arrogant. Second Goku says Daburas around Cells level, Hes probally referring to the last Cell hes seen aka Perfect Cell not super perfect Cell. He did everything on his own from his pride to the erge to be the best of the best. (SuperSaiyan4BurstMode 14:30, October 26, 2009 (UTC)). He was barely an identity, merely an amalgamation of two powerful children. he even accended to ussj with trunks in the htc. Besides, him seeing Goku go SSJ3 won't get him mad and turn SSJ3 himself, because he would have to train more to do it (SSJ3 doesn't come through intense anger like the previous two transformations). SSJ3 is x1,500. He knew this would happen." Vegeta should be perfectly capable of reaching through to Super Sayian 3, since Goku said reaching a higher power comes through need and not always through wanting it. DB is full of this small holes, one more is not a surprise! If SSj2 Vegeta and Bulma were under a +170% ATK leader skill, they would generate an average of 2,456,249 ATK, which would put them above all units in JP other than LR LSSj Broly and LR SSj3 Goku. Ssj5vegeta 20:12, September 3, 2009 (UTC), I think the only reason Goku was able to generate that much energy in the first place was because he died. (2 years after Frieza + 3 years for arrival of Androids + 7 years after Cell = 12 years) During that 12 years Goku fought ALOT and trained even more. Plus, with Goku dying so much and all, ? If Vegeta was seen as a powerful being that had the potential to save the day, that could take away from Goku's image as the series hero. A lot of people on here don't think Vegeta can reach SSJ3 all because Goku did it in the otherworld which makes it impossible in the real world. Another is that it must have been very painful to actually achieve SSJ3 for both Goku and Gotenks, and both had some sort of supernatural life force abetting them, and yet it still cost them to sustain SSJ3 as they got used to it. However, Vegeta and Goku are exactly the same as SSJ2 and Vegeta can stay in the SSJ2 form as long as Goku can, hinting that his energy reserves are pretty large. Don't forget Great Ape, Golden Great Ape, ASSJ and USSJ, which are x10, x800, x100 and x150, respectively. Banned. However this is not enough to make Goku or Vegeta nervous or afraid of him so they could both probally beat him. But when he was dead, he was able to sustain SSJ3 much easier, the only side effect being that it cut into the time he had left on Earth for his one day visit (which obviously wasn't a problem in Other World). Goku had already achieved and most likely practiced with SSJ3 before he fought Kid Buu, and yet the form was still a strain. There is one thing a saiyan keeps, HIS PRIIIIIDDDDDEEEEEE!!!!!!!! Plus, Fusion Dance is much weaker than Potara. In the manga, there are quite a few hints he achieved it before he became Majin Vegeta, with practically none to the contrary, as Vegeta only states Goku to be stronger than Gohan once he, too transforms into Super Saiyan 2, holding complete confidence in his superiority over Gohan prior to becoming Majin Vegeta, and transforms into this state on his own free will from the normal Super Saiyan, long after he became Majin Vegeta. The reason Vegeta didn't become a super saiyan 2 and 3 that smooth, was because he wasn't pure hearted. Each of the base SS forms has its weakness (energy cost), but this weaknes seems to be compensated for with time, as evidenced by the ease at which a Saiyan can transfrom into the next level and the ease at which they can hold it. If the question is "Which is more reliable in battle?" vegeta reached points in his power way before goku did. Vegeta, however, pushes himself to be the strongest warrior just because. Of course he was strong enough to achieve it, the only thing prevented him from becoming stronger then Goku were, like mentioned before, the Otherworld trainings; I think about the Kaio Ken par example. Dance: Old Kai states flat out that dance creates a stronger fusion than the earings. I've been telling people this a lot and've been studing it. 20:19, April 6, 2010 (UTC), yes i know goku returned in the saiyaman saga but wot i meant to say was he was on earth during the babidi saga. First, we have to understand what SSJ3 transformation needs. Goku and Vegeta will forever be even both are cear cut super saiyan 1,and 2 but with vegeta he never had a chance to go ssj3 and the ssj4 goku got help just like vegeta he had the elder kai put out his tail just as vegeta had bulma help grow his tail so both had help reaching ssj4. But did you ever wonder that if vegeta were still smart he would have beaten goku in a battle but not with strength but his intellect would have thought of a trick or something. That's just what I think. Actually, Super Saiyan 3 is different from the other Super Saiyan transformations due to the fact that the only thing needed is to use one's full energy, ki, power and potential to reach it. I imagine Vegeta chooses not to transform because it uses too much energy and he has not yet been able to use SSJ3 effectively. But when he started to care about others again, that slowed down his progress again. A lone sayain couldnt become stronger as a Ssj1 than Ssj 2 In GT goku's little body could not hold super saiyan 3 as well. Lately I have really gotten into dbz again, and I have been researching a lot of stuff again. Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta. In conclusion SSJ3 is ALWAYS stronger than SSJ2 with 2 people of similiar power levels. he reached ssj3 because of combined powers, if a force was so great in DBZ, i think fusion with goku would have been a thought. The rest of the series is vegeta trying to kill everyone by himself even though everyone says don't try it. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! Forget Goku, Vegeta's the best. But I do think that Vegeta HAS need help for some of his forms, whereas Goku did not. DBGT shows that his body can handle the transformation also (assuming that if he can handle SSJ4 he can handle SSJ3). Personally i think DBGT completely sucked ! yes i know he used the form whilst he was a majin but it does not mean dat it was the first time he used it. i think its very possible for vegeta to accent into ssj3, babidi merely amplified the evil in him and thus for. Vegeta witnessed Goku fighting Kid Buu in SS3 form. S1 - AGL Super 17, LR AGL SSj Goku, TEQ Tapion, TEQ SSj3 Broly S2 - PHY Omega S3 - STR SSB Vegeta, LR INT God Goku, INT Kid Goku S4 - STR Kefla, Sugesh, STR Cooler S5 - STR SSBKK Goku, INT Metal Cooler, LR UI Goku I love the stepup!!!! Yes, but the SSJ3 Saiyan would have been at least 4x weaker than the SSJ2 Saiyan in his base form and it wouldn't be a fair comparision. hmmmm? Super saiyan 3 transformation consume a lot of ki energy. STR SSJ3 Goku GT has Over in a Flash and gives all allies 33% attack. Great Ape/SSJ3 completely disturb this balance. 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